1. I predict that the stock market will decline sharply tomorrow...like...big time, if not crash. And any one that has money in the market with any common sense will probably cash it all in. (I know I will).
2. I predict a record braking national wide purchase of arms and ammo before the 2nd amendment is squashed.
3. I predict people filing for divorce will shoot up in blue states, but stay stable in red states.
4. I predict discrimination law suits by minorities will flood the court systems.
5. I predict within 2 years, most that voted for Obama will be kicking themselves in that ass.
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You forgot "dogs sleeping with cats".
Yeah, I'm lost too. #3 has me completely stumped. I'm guessing maybe it's harder to divorce when you're cousins? lol... just kidding, Ric.
Sounds like u been listening to Sara Palin, Ric. At the end of this day you will still have the same people in your neighborhood that you had yesterday. Relax divided politically that we are, United we stand.
United we stand, but when was the last time we "stood united". We are so focused on staying aligned with our repsective parties that we can barely find any common ground any more.
"United We Stand". . . hmm, wouldn't that apply to standing together during a war? How united have we been on that? What sort of unity did that show our enemies and the rest of the world?
No, this was all about getting power transferred to the left. Well, you've got it now. Let's see what you do with it.
Why don't all of you who voted for Obama and the other dems take a moment to write down what you wished for when you cast those votes. Put them in a drawer. Then, as you start to see these "changes" over the next couple years, pull out that list and see if this is really what you wanted.
I only wish we could live the next four years in a "wonderful life" alternate universe. That way, we could at least come to our senses and take it all back.
You know Ric, many democrat's serve in the military. The taxes that have funded Bush's war that has been the biggest raping of Americans and their resources, which he has sold to the American people as a war on terror have come from republican and democrats. I hear that you are bitter and from your comments it is clear that you don't want positive change to take place. Regardless of who agrees with this war, democrats have pushed through an awareness to question the way the war is being handled and legislation to help the soldiers be better outfitted and supported in their mission and their recovery at home. Those of US that supported Obama don't need to make a list because we already have a realistic approach to improve the future and it doesn't include clinging to our guns, talking in tongues and having a pity party, hoping that things don't work out in the future so we could say "I told you so". There is a disastrous mess to repair from the last 8 years of corruption and mis- management, but many of us now have a renewed sense of hope to work toward a better future.
Sorry that last post should have been addressed to Sean not Ric.
1. I predict that the stock market will decline sharply tomorrow...like...big time, if not crash. And any one that has money in the market with any common sense will probably cash it all in. (I know I will).
The market enjoyed something of a rally yesterday 11/4. Profit taking could lead to a drop today. Volatility will be the norm given due to credit tightness, distressing economic indicators, and the 300 pound gorilla that is the ongoing mortgage crisis. This is nothing new, we have talked about this ad infinitum. To attribute this to the president elect is a bit of a stretch.
2. I predict a record braking national wide purchase of arms and ammo before the 2nd amendment is squashed.
Actually this has been ongoing with the firearms market one of the few segments showing relatively strong growth at around 8%. I am interested at how it is perceived that Obama will take away constitutionally mandated rights to gun ownership. Now I admit I'm a bit fuzzy on this whole Civics thing but my understanding is that this typically would be a matter for the Supreme Court with their 5-4 conservative lean to decide. There is of course the reasonable possibility that Obama may enjoy the honor of nominating one or even two new justices. However, chances are those nominees would be for the replacement of what is regarded as a "left leaning" judge. Less likely is the replacement of a conservative judge with one more liberal due to age. At any rate, history shows that the court has been quite competent in interpreting constitutional intent as it relates to the present time, regardless of makeup. On a personal note I wouldn't mind some restriction on firearms. I fail to see the need for your neighbor to posses armor piercing 50 caliber weaponry for example. And just to provide some perspective I own a Remington 12 gauge pump as well as a Smith & Wesson 38 cal revolver. But that's just me.
3. I predict people filing for divorce will shoot up in blue states, but stay stable in red states.
I don't follow this line of reasoning. Here in Florida that George W. carried in both 2000 & 2004 now since Obama has won the state somehow the divorce rate will "shoot up"? It may be considered noteworthy that this is the same state that yesterday adopted a statewide constitutional amendment by a margin of 1.8 million votes banning gay marriage. I don't really know what to make of that other than it's safe to say that this will likely reduce the number of gay divorces as well.
4. I predict discrimination law suits by minorities will flood the court systems.
Discrimination by whom? You could just as easily make the case that since a black man has now been elected to the nations highest office that the refuge of discrimination and the old "whitey keeping me down" has at least lost some validity.
5. I predict within 2 years, most that voted for Obama will be kicking themselves in that ass.
This is entirely possible. We fortunately do have some remedy for this. They are called elections. The current occupant has been given eight years to find some measure of reliable and competent service to the Republic to little avail.
Does it seem so unreasonable to give the new guy a chance?
John McCain is a fine american. His concession speech last evening was gracious and magnanimous. In it he spoke of his intent to honorably serve his president. Until such time as the president elect has the opportunity to actually assume the office, assemble his cabinet & formulate domestic and foreign policy it's in all of our interests to give him some leeway. In the meantime thank the Lord that you live in the land that continues to engender and nurture this great and ongoing experiment in self government.
That's all I have to say about that.
Here's a prediction...white, middle class "Christian" women become terrorists!! I witnessed it myself today. When I went to the hairdressers this morning there was a "mom mobile" parked in front with a McCain/ Palin bumper sticker on it and the words "In God We Trust" written all over the windows...inside the owner of the car was chatting with a couple of other women and as I walked by she said, "All we can do now is pray that he is assassinated". I held my composure...her words were too despicable and vile for any kind of response. I couldn't resist though when Stacey my stylist went to get me a cup of coffee and she asked if I wanted cream, I had to say...(a little too loudly and cheerfully) "No thanks, I like my coffee how I like my President....black" .
You should have stuck your head in and said "you do realize that would mean Joe Biden would become president don't you". Not to mention Nancy Pelosi becoming second in line. That really would give them something to piss and moan about.
I predict a thunderous exodus to Alaska by disgruntled Republicans unable to accept the leadership of a black-socialist-Muslim-atheist-terrorist-homo-liberal. They will elect Todd Palin to lead the Alaskan Independent Party and succeed from the Union thanks to support from their sympathetic Governor.
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My first piction came true. DOW nose-dived near 500 points!
Yes Juliet, many Demecrats do serve in the military, but at least in the Army were I served several terms, they were quite the majority.
The taxes as you said funded Bush's war was also approved by the Demacrats nearly 100%. And if I may add, this is a war on Islamic terrorism.
I can not speak for Sean himself, but just wanted to give my point on your remark.
CORRECTION: Juliet, I actualy meant to say, the Democrats were actualy quite the Minority in the Army when I was serving.
When ever I am asked how I like my coffee, I always say, "I like my coffee black, just like I like my women...bitter". :)
For a man to say, I like my coffee black like I like my women would be consider very racist, now wouldn't it?
Wow! rac finally got the description our our new president correct. I guess an old dog can learn new tricks. Enjoy your victory while you have it, I hope things work out the way you planned.
RAC'ster, your sounding like you know how us 'right wingers' really understand and think! (Come on over to the 'Right Side')
I defected from California in 1989 to the great State of Alaska, where I lived for 3 wonderful years!
I made my exodus to Alaska after a bitter divorce. (But since, me and my ex-wife have retained our old friendship).
While in Alaska, I was planning to spend my life alone in a log cabin, shooting moose for meat, and snuggling with grizzly bears at night to keep warm. But then I met my wife, from New York. So, to make a long story short, I now live in New York!
As for fear of 'black-socialist-Muslim-Atheist-homo-terrosist-homo's'. There was no fear. We just shot them! ;)
Exellent comment Sean! So exellent and to the point! You are always on target!
And for da 'Steelers' they are kicking major butt!
Last night I went to bed with a tear in my eye, just as I did when Bill Clinton was elected. My sadness is fueled by the continual "Bush" bashing, a President who protected this country after a terrorist attack within our borders. How dare we judge his presidency by our wallets, when Commander in Chief Richard Nixon was forced to resign in disgrace and Commander in Chief Bill Clinton had articles of impeachment brought against him. I just don't get it.
All that being said, I will never be a Democrat or consider voting Democrat. My political ideals just don't align with theirs. But I do respect our process and the office of the President of the United States, our Commander in Chief. Do I think disaster will strike the United States on Barack Obama's watch? I am fairly confident he will support and advance some social policies which will offend me, but he is a brilliant politician and clearly a leader, so I doubt I will fear to sleep at night.
But my ultimate peace comes in the knowledge that regardless of the outcome of this election - God is in control.
So to the Democrats I say "Congratulations." It was a good race. And to the Republicans2012 is only four years away!
Beautifully spoken Becky. You are a true woman of grace. May God bless you.
BTW, it still doesn't change my mind about Bush. But just like you Becky, I've never lost any sleep over it.
Cindy - when you say "her words were too despicable and vile for any kind of response." in relation to assisinating Obama. I agree.
What was your reaction to the Sarah Palin "halloween hanging" out in California that was presented as "art"?
Juliet - I'm not bitter, I'm concerned. All I've heard is "vote for Obama for change". You say the changes are positive, but I don't agree that most of what Obama has promised will be positive at all.
Redistributing the wealth.
Paying more taxes.
Drastic cuts in military spending.
Dismantling our nuclear deterrents.
Bankrupting the coal/coal power industry.
Pulling out of Iraq.
Which of these are positive?
When Republicans win, we are exorted to reach across the aisle. When Democtrats win, we are told to "get on board" and that we have already achieved unity.
Sean,
I'm not trying to flame anyone here I just enjoy the discourse. And believe me that given time I'll be right in line if Obama shows himself to be a phony or have agendas contrary to the well being of us all and the preservation of the republic.
I think with an 8 trillion dollar budget deficit at some point you have to either reduce money going out or increase money coming in, it's remedial math. Again this is not a flame on Bush but it is a fact that he assumed the office with a surplus and will leave the office with a deficit, a sizable one actually. Set your party or political affiliation aside for a moment and you have to agree this was gross mismanagement of your money. At some point you have to stop the bleeding. This may come by increases in taxes, it may come by reductions in spending or some form of both. It's going to be painful. Someone has to have the backbone to make these hard choices and tell all of us this is really going to suck before we spend ourselves to third world nation status.
Historically the people of the US have pretty much met every difficult challenge that their leaders have asked them to meet. All we need is the guy to offer the challenge. Obama may be the guy, maybe he won't, time will tell I suppose. Frankly I think you have to have at least grudging admiration for anyone that is willing to wade into this river of shit.
Doug - Mutual Admirations! I love the discourse and can tell you are really considering positions before you type.
I agree that Bush went way overboard in spending, but it is not just him. The president submits a budget (fat), the congress pumps it up (fatter) and throws in earmarks (fattest) and then the president signs or vetoes. I can only recall offhand a single veto from Bush. So, he absolutely didn't do what I helped elect him to do. No argument there.
But, what I don't get is why you think Obama has a better position/plan on spending than McCain. I never heard him say he'd cut anything (except with a scalpel). What will he do to fix this issue?
Taxing more won't solve it, certainly. When you raise the tax rates, you end up lowering the tax revenues. People and corporations change what they do based on taxes (not hiring, not selling, etc.). Every time a tax rate has been lowered, the tax revenues have gone up. This is the essence of the vilified "Bush tax cuts" and one thing I agreed with him on.
But, I don't see how Obama has a better plan to deal with this. I only hear about increases in spending vis-a-vis expanded healthcare, investments in this or that, etc.
What do you expect from him?
Well, I can give you some positive effect of Obama being elected. I've been out the last two days walking the "Arab street" here in Cairo and I can tell you the people are happy that we have a new president and he is getting good reviews in the papers. That is the first positive thing I have heard and read about the
USA over here since 9/11. That says a lot about the softening attitude here and the opening of an opportunity to improve the American image Internationally.
Sean,
I don't know that Obama's plan is better than McCains, hell I'm not exactly sure what his plan is. I do know that right now he's the guy and as such for now I give him the benefit of the doubt.
The reason the Bush tax cuts were so widely reviled is because there was no corresponding reduction in discretionary spending. That and they were targeted primarily at higher income brackets.
McCains undoing was the tsunami of anti incumbent sentiment and his selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate. Right or wrong there was a sizable number of voters that were mortified at the prospect of her being the president.
At any rate what i expect from Obama is to surround himself with competent people and serve in the best interest of, and for the preservation and advancement of American Democratic ideals. Intrinsic in that agenda has to be finding some reasoned and measurable way for us to get our financial shit together. In no way does he get a free pass, but he does get in my opinion some time.
Anyways I'm off to the dentist. Hey since Obama's the guy now maybe it'll be free :)
Doug, you crack me up! You'd rather be at the dentist than continue this verbal sparring???
Just kiddin'
I get where you're coming from. Let's see how things play out, for sure. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised, but I'll still stick to my guns (no pun intended) when it somes to my issues and positions.
Juliet - so glad to hear that we elected a president for the world to approve of. Let me ask, does anyone on the Arab street in Cairo care what we think of them? Or, do they do what's best for them and their belief's.
I hear a lot about this and I don't agree that everyone loved us before Bush and if we could just get the right guy in the white house they would love us again.
The US government has made it a policy to back oppressive non-democratic regimes in the Middle-East that have directly led to the lack of growth of prosperity and opportunities for the majority of the people here. This has contributed greatly for the success of Radical Islam because it offers an opposition to their present plight. Yes, they care how they appear to anyone, appearance and honor is huge to these people, but don't think to get in a tit for tat fight with them like you are trying with me. They think in terms of generations not four year blocks.
Over heard person 1 asking person 2, "are you going to the tea party"? Person 2 said "what tea party"? Person 1 said "the up coming tea party, kind of like the first one". Person 2 said "no, it will be a cappuccino party".
True story.
As for Bush bashing. ~40% of the population is Republican. Bush's approval rating is ~20%. That means at least half of the Republicans aren't too happy with him either (which might explain why none of the Republican candidates asked him to campaign for them). I guess that means at least half of the Republican party is un-American.
The congress' approval rating is, what, about 14%? Do you apply the same logic to the Democrats in the house and senate?
No???? .....And who's bashing Bush? If some one was, I must have missed it...or over read it. Certainly a lot of rebublicans did not like his extream liberal spending, but supported his defence policy.
Yes, Bush's approval rating is only 20%. But the Democratic Congress approval rating is like only 12%. An 8 percentage piont lower. Guess a lot of Democrats are un-American too?
An no. I must correct you RAC'ster. Even if 1/2 of the republicans disagree with President Bush, they are still 100 % American! As are the Democrats that voted for Obama!
Even though we may disagree, to me you are the RAC'Meister...Da Man!
Dang it Sean, you beat me to the punch! ;)
I'm glad you caught my sarcasm. To disagree with our Nation's leaders is not un-American. In fact, it's the cornerstone of our democracy. Just ask the Brits.
My brother-in -law living in up state New York (a real Brit 'the Dentist') is from England (born and raised). He left Great Britian to practice dental medicine in the 'US of A' because of there policies, 'socialized medicine' in England.
The medical..socialized medical system in England is crashing.
This whole string of verbage all boils down to doug's first comment.
"dogs sleeping with cats"
Someone's gonna screw the pooch.
Well that ol' dog needs to have a basket with his back to the wall for the next 4 years because he has already been sorely used.
Ric, Maybe your brother in law left because he is a capitalist at heart and was more into the money. Which is a problem for many countries in Europe who find doctors are leaving t the US where the pay is better.
My friend has been treated for Breast Cancer over there the last few years and has several family members there. I know a lot of Brits and I don't hear them complaining about the crash of the medical services in England.
Juliet, 'crash' may have been the wrong work. 'Ineffective' is the word I should have used.
It's a fact that those that live under socialized medicine wait longer periods of time before getting such treatment as Oncology. And once they are diagnosed to the time of their first treatment, it is often to late. Those that can offord it come to the US or Indai for treatment, because they have a better survival expectancy. Your friend, is one one the few fortunate I am sure. I'm glad she is fine!
Go to any northern boarder town in the US. The majority of those being treated for cancer are from Canada.
As for my brother-in-law, there is no reason why he should not be able to enjoy the fruits of his labor!
My 2nd prediction came true today...record number of fire arms sales in fear of the President-elect banning the 2nd amendment. (Now I call that a citizen demestic force)!
See Ric, he hasn't even taken office yet and he's already spurring on the economy.
Ric,This is for you. I don't have a problem with anyone looking out to make a buck. I wonder if your brother in law was burdened with the large debt from getting his dental degree like most graduates are in America or was his education subsidized by the British Gov., something that would off set the lower pay. There is a lot of propaganda against Universal Health Care but when you get really sick someday and the little cash that you have accumulated is gone you will have a light bulb moment. Statistically some of you guys are going to get Prostate cancer and some of you already have it. I recommend an annual PSA even if your private provider doesn't. Most cancers in men originate in the prostate and spread from there.
By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Nov 2 (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner Rudy Giuliani acknowledged on Friday his cancer statistics were outdated but said his point remained the same -- beware of British health care.
Giuliani, who has suffered prostate cancer, has taken criticism from British and U.S. health officials for saying in a radio ad this week the U.S. survival rate for the disease was 82 percent while the survival rate under Britain's "socialized medicine" was 44 percent.
Health officials in both countries say the most recent statistics show five-year survival rates for prostate cancer are 99 percent in the United States and 74 percent under Britain's National Health Service.
Giuliani told reporters he was using statistics from 2000 and said "those statistics have changed slightly today" -- but he did not back away from the broader comparison.
"Even if you want to quibble about statistics, you find me the person who leaves the United States and goes to England for prostate cancer treatment, and I would like to meet that person," he said.
The debate about overhauling the U.S. health-care system is a top issue in the campaign for the November 2008 presidential election.
Many Democratic candidates like Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York have proposed universal health-care coverage for Americans through a mixture of private and public plans. It would not be government-run health care, but Republicans often portray it as a similar big-government fix.
"If we ever got to Hillarycare in this country, Canadians will have nowhere to go for health care," Giuliani said. Canada has a government-funded universal health-care system.
British Health Secretary Alan Johnson said on Thursday Giuliani's figures were wrong and complained about his attacks on Britain's National Health Service.
"The British NHS should not become a political football in American presidential politics," Johnson told The Times newspaper in London.
Cancer survival rate statistics depend on the number of cancers that are detected and when they are reported, and therefore may not necessarily reflect how well a health-care system performs at preventing cancer deaths overall.
The Times said roughly the same proportion of men -- 25 out of 100,000 -- died of prostate cancer in the United States and Britain each year.
The Commonwealth Fund, a private foundation that supports research on health systems, reported on Thursday that Americans spent double what people in other industrialized countries did on health care, but had more trouble seeing doctors, were the victims of more errors and went without treatment more often.
Its annual survey comparing the U.S. health-care system to those of countries with national health plans finds the United States consistently last in most categories. (To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters "Tales from the Trail: 2008" online at http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/)
Yep RAC, the sales are arms and ammo went sailing, but investors (like myself) are fulling out of the stock market in fears of Obama's proposed tax hikes.
So where are we now on our predictions. Just looking over the blog.
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