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27 comments:
Now, that's funny shit... regardless of who you vote for.
Speaking of politics, who'll be watching the McCain tonight, there is football at 7:00 pm EST ?
I was informed that McCain will be speaking at half-time.
As a proud Rebublican, the hi-light of the Convention was last night (shwing), tonight its all football baby! Go Red Skins!
I promise to watch until the first time McCain says ..."my friends"...
Good one RAC....very funny...what I needed today..lol.
As soon as some one says "my friend" to me, red flags pop up in my head.
But I still love his VP pick!
That's good stuff right there.
The hypocrisy is so evident!Thanks Jon Stewart.You pointed out the obvious.
Robert Carraway...
Funny it was! But the 'Smoke'n hot gun toting momma from Alaska still has my vote, oh, I mean McCain has my vote'.
Keep them coming RAC!
Ric, let's just hope she's better with a gun than Cheney is.
I was watching Bill Maher last night and one of his guests brought up what I thought was an excellent point.
Suppose that it was Barack Obama that came up on stage with his pregnant 17 year old unmarried daughter accompanied by the ne'er do well that had done the deed. And before you think he was jumping to conclusions about this kid they showed his facebook page. Suffice it to say he is not what you would imagine an enterprising young man.
But I digress. Suppose it was Obama that brought his pregnant unmarried daughter up on stage for a big happy family moment. It's not too difficult to imagine the chorus of the offended morals that would be coming from the very same crowd that has celebrated the transparency and honesty of the Palin clan under these difficult circumstances.
My first impression of this Levi kid was one of empathy. The way he was stuffed in a suit and paraded in front of the crowd and cameras like some kind of circus oddity had to be excruciating.
Now I kind of feel like he got what he deserved. There was a time in the not too distant past he would have gotten a grade A ass kicking for his indiscretion. Instead the Republican spin machine has in short order transformed him into a stand up guy.
Speaking of hypocrisy...
Does the Daily Show also run the same clip comparisons of the Obama campaign in relation to the experience question? the same pundits are defending his 'so called' experience and attacking Palin's 'lack' of experience. I'm sure you'll find a lot of dual standards on that side as well.
I expect campaigns and parties tend to use the same arguments to defend their people as they use to attack the other party's people. But, when our news media (yes, I know that "Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz" aka Jon Stewart isn't a newsman) shows the same sort of double standard then the integrity of the American free press is surely destroyed.
I thought it always was:)
Well, if it were Obama's daughter I'm sure she just would have aborted, since he doesn't want his girls 'punished for a making a mistake'.
I think that the true reason the left is outraged about Palin's daughter is that it goes straight against their continual narrative that teens must have free and secret access to abortions because fathers will surely beat their daughters to death when they come home pregnant.
Lo and behold, here is a pregnant, 17 year old daughter - alive and well and seemingly still loved by her family - even her father!
Actually Sean, I think Bristol Palin's pregnancy is her own darn business, just as I believe that any woman's pregnancy and body is her own business. What I do find outrageous is that Republican conservatives believe that government should not interfere in our personal lives ( I agree) and yet they don't practice what they preach when they want to intrude on the privacy and reproductive rights of women of any age. Conservatives should practice their own religion and not endeavor to impose their beliefs on others. Our society is pluralistic with the basic right of freedom of , or from, religion.
I'm almost certain that Sarah is a crack shot with a weapon.
One thing that I can say about Sarha (AKA: Smoke'n hot new R-VP pick) is that she did not come off as a victim of sexism or what ever. She comes off as a person that shows that women can pull them selfs up by there own boot straps and make it to the hightest levels in this great Country of ours.
And yes, Obama did make that statement about if his children were expecting. An expecting child should never be considered a punishement, but a blessing and a miracle, as we all are.
I suspect the only one who considers it a blessing when a teenage girl gets knocked up is her 48 year old FLDS husband.
Hey RAC, no teenage child getting knocked up is ever a blessing. It's the miracle of life that is!
How have you been man? Any work on the possible Michigan relocation?
EDIT. RAC, typo on my part. I meant to write, "any word (not work) on the possible Michigan relocation"?
No "official word" yet Ric. Hope to know more soon.
Sean,
just curious but why did you feel it was relevant that John's real last name was Leibowitz?
How can you be sure that if it were Obama's daughter in this circumstance she would choose to abort?
Speaking as a father of two teenage daughters, I will always love them no matter what, unconditionally. My political leanings, if they could be compartmetalized, would probably be defined as "left".
I tend to think that most humans are a little more complicated than their overt political beliefs. Absent what can be accepted as proven fact or intimate personal experience with an individual, assumptions are typically based on sweeping generalizations and personal prejudices.
Hi Doug - The Obama "mistake" line was from his own speech, not something I made up.
I've got two daughters as well and, in some ways, I am dreading when they become teenage daughters. I'm surely on the 'right' side of the political spectrum but I probably didn't get there with the usual conservative positions.
On the teen pregnancy issue, for example. I am not a man 'of faith' so for me it isn't about the 'miracle of life'. It is about:
The family - I do not accept that a teenage girl can get pregnant and obtain a surgical, life altering procedure without involving at least one parent. Teenagers are not adults, they are not women, they are children. They don't have the rights (and responsibilities) of adults and that doesn't change just because this one particular thing is a hot issue (on both sides of the aisle).
The rights AND responsibilities - the current environment grants the woman the power to make whatever choice she sees fit. The man, on the other hand, has no choice at all, but is certainly on the hook should a question of responsibility come up. A man has no say in the question of keep the baby, abort the baby, offer the baby for adoption. But, when a woman decides to keep the baby he is held financially accountable (even if he has no chance to obtain custody). The woman has the 'right to choose' but the man has the the 'burden of responsibility' for that choice. This can go both ways - men who don't want to be fathers and men who don't want 'their baby' aborted.
What if this was purely a contractual discussion? Party A (supplier) and Party B (receiver) transfer goods. Upon completion of the transfer, Party A is completely absolved of further responsility for the use or development based on the goods and will have no say in the matter. (i.e. woman has right to choose and the responsibility for her choice).
Or, perhaps Party A and Party B agree to form a joint venture for mutual "product development". Both parties agree to an equal partnership for a term of at least 20 years with equal shares and stakes in any outcome resulting from the joint development effort. (i.e. woman and man share rights and responsibilities equally).
I do understand that historically it has been a very different situation. Men have "had their way" with women (and girls) and then have no responsibilities or even acknowledgement. Meanwhile the girls are "in trouble" and left to deal with everything on their own. I am certainly not saying that that is an acceptable situation either. But, often what happens is that the pendulum will swing from one side to the other - though the ideal situation is probably somewhere in the middle.
For me, the bottom line is why aren't we focusing our attention on the choices made prior to the abortion question. We are we having sex with partners we have no intention of bearing children with (disclaimer: myself included)? The stigmas, cultural pressures and taboos regarding sex aren't merely religious silliness, there is a purpose to them. Humans have complex, complicated and expensive offspring. In general, the ingredients for successful child rearing include two parents who are capable of providing this. (please don't start with the non-traditional family discussion. I was raised by my father until I was 7. I'm talking generalities here). In the past few decades we've gone overboard to remove the cultural pressures for young girls and boys to not have sex, but the underlying issues are still there.
Shouldn’t we focus more on keeping teens out of situations where they have to make this choice?
Sean,
hello back. Did you survive Hanna? Well said and fair enough.
Have to admire this folks! Two points of view respectfully debated! I must say, I enjoyed both Sean's and Doug's opinions. This is a great example on how it should be done!
Men always have a choice to use birth control measures so they don't impregnate women. Women have the choice once the ball has been bounced in their court so to speak to choose to have or not to have. Birth control for women only came about after industry noticed that women were a cheap and reliable source to work in industries and continue to fuel the economy by taking over the jobs that men were unable to do during W.W.I and W.W.II. The thing is, that in my opinion men should really be the focus of birth control and "the pill" because they have a much more stable hormonal profile than women. Medically and culturally the burden of Birth Control is placed on Women. Condoms were developed initially in response to the dreaded syphilis and if I am not mistaken most men think to use them more for prevention of getting venereal diseases and less about birth control. I think that usually once a "clean" relationship is established men tend to put the burden of birth control in the female partners domain.
I have two college age sons and have really made an effort to point out to them that their health and economic commitments are in their hands. If they get a girl pregnant and there is no legal relationship, she has the right to the baby and by law he will pay. Men have the right to sue for custodial care and custody if they are determined to be the biological father. Most states have a limit on contesting financial obligations based on biological paternity to about 2 years. In recent study presented on CNN it was estimated that one third of children are being raised or provided for by men who unknowingly are not their biological fathers. My advice is for men to push for better male birth control and use a condom regardless and if that fails, get a paternity test early. I think birth control should be available free of charge, handed out everywhere, sex education needs to be taught in all the schools along with personal law and financial planning.
I agree to Juliet also.There's just a bunch of smart people here.
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