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28 comments:
RAC, I know this is a rhetorical question. If you are trying to stump or trip up a conservative, this is the wrong question.
No. If I want to go to my own doctor to get help, I still can. This is not a total take over of medical care. There are times that the Federal Government needs to step in to help in a crisis, Don't you agree?
This may be a "foot in the door" as an excuse to enact a forced socilaisation of his and Hillary Clinton's socialised health care.
Drl, I would like to point out that it is a myth perpetuated by the health care industry and politicos in American that people who live in countries where socialized medical programs are, can not go to the doctor of their choice. In Germany you can and you get great, professional service. In America many people can not go to a doctor of their choice because they can not afford it.
All that I can tell you folks is that my Brother-in-law, a Dentist …a native of Great Britain, and my sister-in-law, the Medical Doctor, a native from Italy (whom works for the United Nations), both agree that the US of A has the best thing going in medical care. They are both European’s by birth and citizenship.
And to answer your question RAC, “If the federal government steps in to help combat a swine flu pandemic does that constitute socialized medicine”?
It is prevention, not treatment.
Juliet, I know, and many people love socialised medicine. But I know, living so close to the Canadian border, that many people with enough money come down here for medical care. The time it takes to see a specialist often kills the patient. I know, from my mother living in places like Vladavastok and now Baku, she wont go to there doctors. They wait to get back to the States. Right now my mom has blood dripping out of one of her ears, and still wont go to the doctors there. I can not speak for many other countries, but I do know that the Canadian socialized health care has failed. I am not sure about President Obama's health care program, but the Clinton Administration's health care, I would have been told who to go to. My family doctor, same one for 25years now, brought both my kids into the world, would have quit under that program. Once again, I don't know all the specifics, but I don't want my doctor visit to be like going to the DMV, or post office.
I for one don't have a problem with the gov. putting the word out. We still need to look out for the elderly and infirm. Who here doesn't remember the field trips on Guam to Public Helf to get shots and shown how to brush our teeth properly? My parents had good Gov Guam health insurance but still sent me on the field trips. Why? Because an ounce of prevention is still worth a pound of cure. As long as the government doesn't take away my choice. Don't tell me where I have to go. You can make it available to me but don't force me to use it if I don't want to. DRL said it best for me though, don't make it like a trip to the DMV.
I have the day off to get some work done on the floors in my house and it could possibly the last one I have for a while.I've gotten paged recently (everyone in my department is keeping our pagers on 24/7) and I found out that we have our first suspected case in our county. There is no way we can handle this situation without the help of the Federal Government. And I can tell you that if you go to your personal doctor they will not even be able to give you a flu test because the testing has to be done under a biological hood. Also the CDC says that anyone collecting a sample on anyone suspected with the flu has to gear up with full PPE... gown, gloves, mask and eye protection.
If it's only prevention, not treatment, Ric who do you think is going to make sure that antiviral meds are going to be getting to where they need to go? In your capitalist world I guess you would say that who ever can pay the highest price for them should be the ones getting them.
lol,Okay, your mom is not living in the most advanced country in Eastern Europe. That is like comparing Yap to California.
Ric, I think you need to qualify what they like about the US system. Both trained in countries that subsidize the education of medical professional and both left their countries and are probably making more money. So is it great here because of the money or because of the ability to give universal health care? Hands down the US has great innovation and treatment facilities but can everyone have a shot at them. No only if they can pay. You know what sometimes it is possible to wait for certain surgeries and not have life threatening consequences. .If it means that more severe patients need to go first then sometimes it has to go that way. Even in the USA.I have experience first hand with Germany's medical system and I like what I see. And here is another news flash. Years ago the German government recognized that women who are care givers to their children and don't work the first three years get about 10 years of Pension credit so that they have an equal financial footing as men in later years. You need 15 for full benefits unless you are the spouse of someone who has them and certain other categories. The aim is to give everyone a shot at a decent standard of living. Of course in America we would have to dump some of the extreme right ideology that some people are just sinners and have to suffer. It's gods will that sort of idiocy.
P.S. I have lived in some real crap places and there is always a way to get treatment, the Embassy's keep rotating doctors, there are pharmacies, there are oil companies that keep nurses, it is possible to track someone down and beg them to have a look. Someone has blood coming out of the ear and they don't seek treatment they need more than the ear checked.
Juliet, as for both of my foreign born in-law’s, one does not work in the US, but abroad, traveling from nation to nation. They other, (the Dentist), is hear because he is one darn good dentist. Good organizations or Countries only hire the best Doctors.
Juliet, you will get no argument from anyone on this blog that she needs to get her head examined.
(inside note: She has not changed over the years)
Cindy, Do you work for a Federal Hospital?
My family Doctor spend more time on government mandated paperwork than seeing patients any more. I think he is a better doctor than government worker. How many highway workers do you see leaning on a shovel? Do you think that the federal government knows more what my family needs in medical care than my family doctor? Remember under the Clinton's forced health care, the government would decide what my doctor would practice. You mentioned a "capitalist society". What is your alternative, Socialism? Can't the federal government step in to help in times of need, without being a social program? How about working with capital groups.
One other question, is the federal government the only source of help in a free country?
Do you remember Katrina? The federal government told the Mayor of New Orleans to evacuate 3 days before the hurricane hit, but still, it was (in the eyes of liberals) the federal government's fault that a city full of buses sitting under water.
What if the government would have called up charter buses to evacuate the city?
Don't complain about a capitalist society if you willingly participate in it/work for it.
Okay, I was ranting a bit :)
One statement that shows that the federal government needs to step in without "ANYONE" thinking it is socialism. United States Military.
It is not a social program, yet the federal government steps in for our protection, right?
Juliet and Cindy are two intellectual people...Thank Goodness for them!!!
If you think that just because you pay for your own health insurance or have it provided by your employer, you have "choices" and can go to any doctor you want, you're wrong. You have to go to the doctors and hospitals that your insurance company has negotiated a set fee with. If you want to go to someone not in their "network" you are going to pay for it on your own. If you are in an HMO you can't see a specialist unless your primary doctor approves and that is discouraged but it costs more money.If you are going to have any expensive procedure done including surgery the insurance company has to pre-approve it. Insurance companies refuse to pay for tests and surgeries all the time!!! Insurance companies also often force doctors to only write prescriptions for generic drugs (mine does). In our current system it's the INSURANCE COMPANIES who are in charge and making the decisions!!!!
They are going to find out the hard and heartbreaking way.
"Juliet and Cindy are two intellectual people" Domo Arigato Mr. Robato Domo,Domo.Haahhaha.
Mat, the Styx fan!! Rock on!
Hehehe.You know we're gonna catch heck for this tomorrow right?
Mat, when I am not in trouble, I am scared.
Don't you two ever get tired of stroking each other. I am no Robot, thank you Mr.Roboto, but you two and your comments are so predictable I think you might be.
Are you kidding Juliet? Oh, yea, you weren't there for the grub Mat and Bonita provided. Keep the cook happy! Ha haa haaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Styx was a good band up till the Mr. Roboto stuff. So Mat, that was actually a bad use. Sorry, bro, still the grub is great!
Cindy, yep, you are right. Not every health care insurance is the same. Not every one pays for the same thing. That is what is called choice. I have chosen to pay for my own insurance. Yes, that's right. I do not expect any one to pay for mine. I have never been without insurance. Some places I have worked supplied great insurance that I was happy with, others did not supply any, and yet others supplied health insurance that left me paying for min own. It is all choices I have made. To think or assume that because I have insurance of any kind means that I am fully covered is lunacy. However, I have never had to change my family doctor with any that I have chosen and if any ever said I could not go to the same doctor that I have seen for the length of my family life, I would choose another insurance company. The difference is the government does not give the same choice. Take what they offer or nothing. How can you, being in a capitalist profession chastise me for wanting to have my choice rather than a socialist forced program? Are you saying that the government can run health-care better than private companies? Are you saying that medicare is a better provider than private insurance, and that you would prefer to be under it than you present care system?
Oh and Juliet, I think what Mat (He can speak for himself) is saying is something like this, the supporters of President Obama (I support him as my president, but not in theology, morality, or politics) will not or have not admitted he has made mistakes. On the other hand, I believe that about every republican/on the right has or will admit that "our guy's" will, have and do make mistakes. I know I have seen it, and I will admit it. Why won't any on the left. I have tried and asked for it in the past with out any positive response on the left. I believe if someone makes a mistake, call it that. The left ether does not think or admit to being wrong. That is what I took what Mat said. It is "robotic" to go with what ever is said. This was admittedly what happened in the past, with governments that took complete mind control over most of it populous. In some cases allowing the attempted extinguishing of whole ethnic groups, while the general populous stood by, not calling wrong, wrong.
No matter who I stand for, I will stand and call wrong what it is.
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